Saturday, December 6, 2014

More Effective Speeches

Listen to the at least THREE of the four following speeches and, in the comments stream, argue which one you like the best. Discuss all three of the speeches in your comments. Refer also to the "How to Give a Great Speech" article and the Aristotelean Triad - Logos (the argument or ideas presented by the speaker), Pathos (the emotional appeal of the speech), Ethos (the moral fortitude or sense of the speaker's authority on a subject) in your post. To which of these modes of persuasion does your favorite speech to refer most? How does your favorite speech follow (or break) the rules laid out in the "How to Give a Great Speech" article.


"If I Should have a Daughter" by Sarah Kay

"Schools Kill Creativity" by Ken Robinson

"Looks Aren't Everything: Believe me, I'm a Model" by Cameron Russell

JK Rowling's Harvard Commencement in 2008

10 comments:

  1. I watched "school kills creativity", "If I should have a daughter", and "looks aren't everything, believe me I'm a model" I think the Best speech was "school kills creativity" told by ken Robinson. I think his was the best for several reasons. First, he touched on logos, pathos, and ethos, meaning that he had a valid and good argument on the subject, the correct moral fortitude and most importantly it was something that almost everybody and certainly students can relate to because it was about school. Also the presentation was good because he was informed and looked and sounded comfortable. The one that I believe wasn't so good was "looks aren't everything, believe me I'm a model" said by Cameron Russell. I believe that it wasn't because she didn't seem very comfortable and at times she seemed like she wasn't prepared but the rest was made well.

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  2. I watched "If I Should have a Daughter”, "Schools Kill Creativity" by Ken Robinson and "Looks Aren't Everything: Believe me, I'm a Model" by Cameron Russell I like "If I Should have a Daughter" by Sarah Kay. It was powerful and moving. I never once lost interest, and that’s because it was so good. She keep you thinking and keep you interested the whole time. One by being so confident, smiling and having a good time. You’d never know she was nervous. She made jokes and was serious when she wanted. She did however talk a little too fast but that’s because she’s so into her speech. She didn’t have an argument but she was very emotional. She had a lot of authority, and she brought up morals and what some people don’t. In the speech "Looks Aren't Everything: Believe me, I'm a Model" by Cameron Russell she was really nervous, very breathy voice, and joked a little too much. I liked her speech. Her speech was personal and persuasive and got you to think about life and all the possibilities. These speeches keep me thinking and interested, “School kills Creativity didn’t, I just wasn’t interested or entertained by what he had to say.

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  3. I watched "If I Should have a Daughter”, "Schools Kill Creativity", and "Looks Aren't Everything: Believe me, I'm a Model". I thought that the best speech was "Schools Kill Creativity" he laid out a good argument, and he used all three of the catagories, logos, pathos and egos, that make a goos speech. Ironically, the speech was a little too generic. The speech "Looks Aren't Everything: Believe me, I'm a Model" made me feel uncomfortable. Most of the speech was her talking about how she was uncomfortable talking about the speech she was giving, which brought me to the conclusion that if she was as uncomfortable as she said she was she would just not be giving the speech at all. "If I Should Have a Daughter" was less of a speech and more of a poem, so it is hard to compare that with well thought out speeches, but I did think that it was really good.

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  4. "Image is powerful." This is what we have been telling ourselves for years. This is why we try so hard to look presentable, and knowing this destroys us. Cameron Russell's talk 'Looks aren't everything: Believe me, I'm a model' appeals to some of my personal ideas and confidence. I struggle with confidence as I am sure most girls in this school do because we look at the media as the baseline of how we should look, dress, and behave every day. "These are not pictures of me; they are constructions" Russell remarks about her images on the covers and pages of magazines and articles. We face a good argument (logos) that models have been placed with unfair advantages on one end of the spectrum, but are also one of the most insecure people one may ever meet. The emotion (pathos) brought into the speech is also strong and heartfelt, and tells me that the speaker cares heavily about what she is speaking about. In fact, her emotion while talking moves me, and makes me care about what she is arguing about; the racial segregation of modeling and the perks of her 'ideal' image that is unfair to the rest of society. The fact that she changes her look in the beginning of the speech already makes me realize how much she cares about the audiences opinions and views of her, and some of the bias that may come with her being a model. Her experience and authority (ethos) and the way she puts her career down to young girls aspiring to be like her for their own well being makes this speech different, yet interesting and something many of us can relate to.

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  5. I listened to the speeches "If I Should Have a Daughter", "Schools Kill Creativity", and "Looks aren't Everything: Believe me. I'm a model." All these speeches were greatly delivered, each one used a different part of the Rhetorical Triangle. "Schools Kill Creativity," by Ken Robinson used Logos because the topic he spoke on is a logical argument, and everyone has been through school and know what it does for us as kids. "Looks aren't everything: Believe me, I'm a model," by Cameron Russell used Pathos and really appealed to the audience and their emotions because many woman feel the same way about that subject and would ask her those same questions. I believe the speech "If I Should Have a Daughter," by Sarah Kay is the best out of the three. This speech appealed to me the most because of the way she delivered the speech. She used Pathos by really being into her speech, speaking with passion, and speaking fluently and firmly through out the whole speech. She also uses key tips from the article "How To Give A Great Speech," she works the room and has one theme through out the whole entire speech. All three were great speeches and delivered well.

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  6. After watching all of the videos posted above I believe that the speech "School kills creativity" by Ken Robinson was the best. This is because Ken Robinson was able to touch on all parts of the rhetorical triangle. He does this by appealing to the audience using comedy and relating to everybody's childhood experiences of being bored in school. He is also able to work with the room and outline what he is going to say at the beginning of his speech.

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  7. The three speeches that watched were "If I should have a daughter" by Sarah Kay, "Schools Kill Creativity" by Ken Robinson, and "Looks Aren't Everything: Believe me, I'm a Model" by Cameron Russell. Of the three speeches I would have to say that "Schools Kill Creativity" by Ken Robinson was the best. He really seemed to connect with the audience the most, which is pathos. He spoke with great confidence and looked as if he truly believed in the topic. He did use ums but some people just can't help it. At times his hand did enter pockets but that did not take away from the speech. To begin with he walked right onto stage and cracked some jokes and get comfortable. Sarah Kay's speech was also filled with emotion but did not win all around in my opinion. It did not seem like she got any response from the audience.

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  8. I watched the first three speeches and I thought that the best one was "school kills creativity". I thought this one was very good because not only did it get his point across, but it did so in a funny manner. He was very sarcastic and was very good at making the audience laugh. He kept the audience awake and present. It also touched on logos, pathos and ethos. He was very good and getting his point across and doing in an entertaining way. That speech was easily the best one here.

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  9. After watching all four speeches they all had something good and or some good thoughts written in them. The first one "If I Should have a Daughter" it looked and sounded to me like she was the most comfortable speaker with enthusiasm and the best public speaking ability along with the man who talked about how "Schools Kill Creativity" following in a close second. The writing style of this man was the most impressive. He gave it with passion and knew exactly what he was talking about, how he was going to say it and how he would get it across and present it in a understandable fashion. To me JK Rowling's Harvard Commencement speech was the worst, she was hiding behind the stand, he speech was unclear to what she was saying. And to me I couldn't relate to her as I could with Sarah Kay and Ken Robinson. My vote goes to Sarah Kay.

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  10. I watched "If I should have a daughter", "Looks aren't everything. Believe me I'm a model.", and "JK Rowling's Harvard commencement speech" and I think that If I should have a daughter is the most interesting one and the one that hooked me the fastest but the most recognized of the three I watched had to be Cameron Russell's but for completely different reasons. Sarah Kay's was interesting because of the way it was recited, it rhymed and sounded good where as Cameron Russell's wasn't as interesting to me but overall it was amazing that she can go up there and do something she is so uncomfortable doing so well.

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